Joe Rogan interviews Vinny Shoreman on Hypnosis for Martial Artists

Joe Rogan talks to Vinny Shoreman about the use of hypnosis for athletes – specifically, for professional fighters and the issues they carry. Shoreman is a mind coach and kickboxing and muay thai commentator and coach. His webpages are at http://www.vinnyshoreman.com/.

This is a fascinating interview, well worth the listen. Seriously, listen to it. In many ways mind coaching and sports hypnosis really is all therapy. I will say that while Shoreman says he took a course in rapid hypnosis inductions, his characterization of them as all shock inductions and the negative tone of his description tells me he doesn’t really understand speed or street hypnosis and may not have competence in them. Seriously, they work far better than he describes and can be extremely effective. Obviously, I am biased as I teach speed hypnosis as well as walkabout trance style speed hypnosis and have students who travel from all over the planet to Taiwan to take part in a course. When it comes to speed hypnosis, I know what I’m talking about . . . Shoreman mischaracterizes speed and street hypnosis and seems to think it’s more of something only for entertainment or to humiliate people . . . he may be competent in his coaching skillsets but he doesn’t seem to fully comprehend speed hypnosis. In fairness, he’s only been doing hypnosis and NLP work since around 2007 and may not have yet been exposed to solid instruction in the subject (he would not be alone in that). Speed hypnosis is very very very worthwhile for hypnotherapists. BTW, like Joe Rogan, I saw Frank Santos many times and was absolutely inspired by his work . . . he was an awesome performance hypnotist (I suspect Shoreman has no idea who Santos was or what genuinely happens in stage hypnosis). Shoreman also doesn’t understand Derren Brown‘s work and seems to accept it at face value (a huge mistake with magicians). Rogan is far closer with his description of a Flim Flam con (not hypnosis, social engineering and social influence at work). Rogan’s description of Banachek is also on target . . . Steve Shaw is brilliant and fun and very very effective at what he does and very honest about the trickery. Years ago, I did a presentation on Hypnosis in Victorian Literature at an academic conference and as part of my presentation I did a bit of psychic trickery which was commonly presented as genuine psychic phenomena in the literature (even today). I clearly said that I am not a psychic and was using trickery – cold reading and some other psychological forcework – and afterward, despite my disclaimer, a former chair of a department at one of the most prestigious universities in the country tried very hard to let me know that it was obvious to her that I have genuine psychic powers but think I don’t and assume I am using trickery. Trust me, that particular set of effects was trickery (and plenty of professional fake psychics use the same patterns today). I also think Shoreman’s take on suggestion and kung fu masters is wrong (it’s suggestion).

Back on topic . . . regular readers know that I have worked with many folks for performance enhancement and skill acceleration for athletics of many types, including martial arts (I’ve worked with folks in fighting skills from Brazilian Jujitsu to Karate to Tai Chi and more as well as mixed martial arts). In addition to working with world class golf professionals, I have also used similar approaches with actors, dancers, swimmers, and more. I have done quite a bit of work with performers of the theatrical bent (actors and dancers, especially) but that makes sense given my undergraduate and first graduate degrees are of a thespian nature (specialist in acting and directing) and I teach drama, acting, and directing at the university so there is that.

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Note that while my comments about certain aspects of the interview may appear negative, I do want to say good on Shoreman for getting some excellent and positive exposure for sports hypnosis. Joe Rogen has a pretty solid audience and it is a very very nice touch that prior to the interview, Shoreman hypnotized Rogen who very obviously became a believer. So good on him.

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